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We were looking for both individual and collective memory.

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What we’ve found, searching technology history and how womyn have taken part in it,

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was a huge knowledge gap.

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We’ve found out that the first person to invent the language for programming was a woman, Ada Lovelace,

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and the programmers of the first computing machine were womyn too,  ENIAC womyn.

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And no one knows this.

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The civil war was a downfall for science in Spain.

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The modernisation brought about by the Republic,

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the effort made since 1907, when the committee for the broadening of studies was established,

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 that’s why we’re celebrating this year the year of science ...,

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the effort towards modernisation was important, and the role taken up by womyn was huge,

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many womyn received funding to go abroad and from there they brought back new techniques that were a boost ...

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 that’s why it’s called the golden age of Spanish science,

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and it was a disaster that so many scientists were killed or exiled, because science in Spain was reduced to nothing.

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I clearly remember, when I was 3 I had a Philips transistor, oval, like this,

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with a black loudspeaker, some round numbers and the dial on the side. It was an MW radio,

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and there wasn’t any music, usually MW stations have people talking like COPE,

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they’re old-fashioned stations, which obviously I wasn’t interested in at the age of 3.

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But turning the dial fast, it would make noises...

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and I would spend hours fiddling with it and making my mum very nervous as she thought I could break it.

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The first thing I remember finding amazing,

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was who invented clothes pegs,

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 the spring, everything ... and I guess it must be a woman,

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 if it’s anonymous, it must be ‘cause it’s a woman!

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And we still use them. It’s one of the first things I remember being intrigued by.

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Something else I was very keen on as a child, and that still uses the same electrical system,

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are sewing machines.

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The fact that it had a reel inside, and was threading, I liked that too.

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And at home, I suppose ‘cause I come from an all-woman family and almost everyone used to like that, we enjoyed discovering things a lot.

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I know that when I was very young I wanted to have a tool box, I wanted tools for my birthday present,

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and my mum thought it was very funny, but she did give it to me,

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so a real tool box with the hammer and pliers, screwdrivers and everything

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.. and I remember getting a pocket knife and of course cutting myself immediately ..

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I always had a pocket knife with me

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As far as I remember, I’ve always mixed with tapes.

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And when I was 16, my first activity was importing records,

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I already had turntables, and then out of the blue someone asks you:

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would you like to DJ at a party? And, well, you say yes, and you train,

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and the more you do it the more you learn, so they ask you again and again.

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Many start it with a friend, a cousin, they play as long as they can,

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but it’s something that is not really encouraged,

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it fades away when they start studying, working, when socialising takes other ways. 

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you always start with computer games when you’re a child,

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and then, as my boyfriend studied IT at UAB,

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well, you get more into it. And when I finished my economics degree,

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I did  programming at a Further Education College, and I liked it a lot,

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so I went on to study at the Open University.

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When I was studying in San Francisco I started my studies of theology

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 with the intention of becoming a Nun,

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and the sister who was responsible for my training,

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she said she had the impression that computers where becoming more and more important...

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specially in the kinds of fields where the sisters of our community where working... this was in 1977

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wow!

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yes..

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I used to work as a secretary when I was a student, at 17,

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working with a PC, which was deadly boring!

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But  when I started working with images on a PC, that changed completely;

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coming from a fine arts and cinema background,

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being able to see and transform an image on a computer, changed my relationship with it.

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Besides using the Web,

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which I had done just roughly,

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when I was at Uni, it was through my activism,

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my first experience as political activist;

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coming back from a summit,

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looking on the Net for pictures of the police using tear gas against us, I found a webpage called indymedia.

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My first approach to PCs...

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was at school,

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I guess it was in the ‘80s and we had MS-DOS as an operating system.

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I wasn’t interested at all, I didn’t like videogames either at that time,

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and our IT teacher was also our Math teacher, and for me it was a sort of math too.

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I thought I was weird, but then talking to other people, it was the same for them.

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I didn’t use to like technology much,

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when I was at school I started to distance myself,

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 ‘cause up to 14 – 15 years old, I used to like math, science,

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but I didn’t like physics and so on,

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I took IT classes and found them, not useless but very far away from me.

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And then, like everyone else I guess, I bought a PC to write my dissertation, and it was when I got into it, I started to like it.

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When I finished university, I moved to Paris, and it was then, being alone in a big city,

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that suddenly the Internet became a tool to be in contact with lots of people and topics I was interested in.

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So my interest in technology grew from my necessity to be in that space,

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the Internet, and relate to it. And to do so, you had to learn how to use a PC, the net,

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and as I was doing it by myself at home, I had to find my way and start using technology.

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I think womyn suffer from a lack of confidence,

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because our professional and human potential has been looked down on,

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and for a long time ...deeply inside I have taken it from my mother,

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starting to programme a video ... no, I’m not going to make it, like her!

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But then I realised it was only about looking at the manual, making mistakes, and try again...

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Something we’ve realised, we all had in common, was that whenever we ask guys a question about Linux or anything,

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we often get explanations impossible to follow, we don’t know what they’re talking about,

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they only talk about what we should know instead of what we have to know to reach their know-how ...

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we first have to work on what we know and need to know to follow up, and we all have gone through this...

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Another example, I don’t know who mentioned it but we all have experienced that, when we are in front of a PC

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and ask something, they lean on us and do it themselves on the keyboard, instead of explaining how to do it...

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In my course of studies, you have to do some internship to get your qualification.

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There were 2 of us, a guy and I, we went to this company and had an interview;

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I had a degree in economics

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so I had a very high level compared to people that normally take this course,

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and they liked all I knew, I had the best marks in the whole class,

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I was doing everything very well and with enthusiasm... But they had already decided which tasks...

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...were for men and which for womyn. womyn would deal with customer service over the phone,

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problems with the software, whatever,

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the helpdesk and so on, while men would help the programmer...

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with patching or so ... and I felt very offended! Besides, there was no reason for that.

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Let’s see, it’s definitely male-dominated. I mean the majority ...

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let’s just look at documentary credits, how many womyn are there?

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Yes, there are a few, but they are a minority, I think we are quite behind in this respect.

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It’s also true that womyn and technology, it seems it’s always been a boy thing,

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the boys would get a screwdriver and take the PC apart, get the camera and so on,

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and womyn perhaps prefer human relationships ... I’m talking about stereotypes here.

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But I think that now everything is interconnected, you with your camera, and your PC, it’s a bit like knitting!

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The democratisation of the media, both in economical terms and... When I found out about compact cameras,

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being able to use a camera without being seen, and light to carry ...

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it’s made things easier for me,

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and maybe it’s been a good thing for womyn.

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As an internet user, using it to get some information or for whatever reason,

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I realise there’s an ideology behind it, which is completely patriarchal.

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The language commonly used is sexist,

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you have to visit womyn websites to find a non-sexist language.

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3, 4 or 5 years ago ...

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my nickname at that time was 8bitgirl,

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8 bits girl, and everywhere they thought I was a guy...

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do you think a guy would call himself 8bitgirl? Nobody would believe that my pink avatar was a girl,

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which I found extremely surprising. Once, in a sort of BBS, an old type of file sharing,

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a guy told me: “ I can’t believe you’re a girl! Man, my nick is 8bitgirl, what would you expect me to be?"

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and he said “watch out, once there was a girl, and a chat user was stalking her, up to her home”

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yeah, right! as if you knew where I live!

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Perhaps for me as a woman, the most important aspect of my relationship with technology

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has been gaining more authority in producing thought...

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I’ve always liked talking about politics

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and before the Internet, I had to struggle to make myself heard through a bunch of drunk people shouting in a bar,

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that’s what it was like! And suddenly with the Internet I could have much more productive exchanges without having to take on a role,

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I didn’t have to swear or shout to make myself heard, and that filled me with satisfaction.

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We are still living in a patriarchal society, womyn are advancing a little,

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they still keep us down, they don’t let us function as we could ...

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they’re afraid, it's normal.

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Femelek is an initiative of the Convent de Sant Agustí,

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a community centre that has...

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...a tradition of womyn directors,

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and last year they had this idea of organising a festival to bring together the new technological activities being realised there,

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and international womyn’s day.

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born to do the cleaning? And to live, be free, give birth, read, fight and all the rest...

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8th of March, for instance, now is the perfect moment to remind them of us,

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do something and get a space, barefaced, we can get it easily ...

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I mean, throughout the year it’s more complicated to get something, but today is our day,

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we can do what we want, ‘cause we’re womyn, making the most of our sex.

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I also think festivals are a bit like: “..let’s call some girls ‘cause it looks bad guys only”,

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I don’t really know why, but whatever the reason...

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I think it’s always right when they invite a girl,

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not for being a woman, but for what she does,

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and that’s good. They also say it’s easier for womyn DJs, I can tell you it’s not, at least not for me ...

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you have to fight your way, giving the best all the time.

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I do it ‘cause I need it, at the psychological level music fulfils me.

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I’d go nuts being in a studio all day, I’d look like a PC,

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I guess I look like one already, ‘cause I’m with my PC but I’m not producing,

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 I’m productive when I go to bed with my headphones, which is quite bad.

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Technology has to be a tool, mainly,

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you need to know what you want

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and you use the software, use it as a tool.

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And I think sometimes less is more, people think that it's getting the latest software ... no, no.

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So here we are, a new world, a new way, it’s true, technology helps a lot,

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nowadays with your home studio you can do a lot, and that’s encouraging, isn’t it? It’s getting easier and easier to produce something.

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Men stay together, communicate more with each other, they stick together

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“pass me that software, that CD with cracked software...” while womyn do it by themselves, alone,

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with their headphones on, more private, that’s what I’ve seen.

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There’s some competition in the scene and you have to kind of struggle to get your space,

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even if you’re a big name or you’re doing something big, doesn’t matter

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womyn DJs are not valued at all,

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and on the DJ scene there’s terrible competition, between the guys already, and when a woman arrives...

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Guys tend to look down on womyn, thinking we don’t know anything about technical stuff,

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don’t know how to plug in a device, connect a PA, and so,

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changing everything in such little time, it’s a bit difficult

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The best thing about 3D was that people like us, interested in music, all of a sudden had a place ...

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where you could DJ, and no one would ask you for a demo, or to do it well ...

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we were all "fatales" and we were there DJing and all dancing,

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and that was the magic about that place. And supporting each other, teaching each other what we knew,

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and if there was someone who had no idea we would teach them, which is even more difficult as a woman,

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as they don’t explain much to you assuming you won’t understand much,

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but among us we’d say, come on!  And I remember when...

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we were managing a place in the heart of Barcelona, we used to do something like youth training,

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and encouraged womyn to come round early and put some music on, and we’d train them, explain the turntables and so on,

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and then some of them carried on ...

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 it’s a bit like, everyone’s helping each other, and if you like music we welcome you!

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Yes, if womyn DJs want to have a decent venue, such as a club,

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 their only opportunity is Tuesday, as no one goes out on that day,

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so to attract people in days that are not busy, they set you up with a woman DJ,

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and this is sad. Perhaps, I’m the woman who’s been DJing more in squats around Barcelona.

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The idea of an equality plan came up within Gracia Territori Sonor.

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These sorts of things are quite hard at the beginning, I think.

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If an organisation has a gender perspective, brilliant!

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But when it’s quite mannish and you want to do something like:

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“well, let’s see what the situation is like and what needs to be done to improve it”

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it always turns controversial.

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LEM went well, last time I’ve worked there was last year and...

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it was the first time we had 50% womyn working in the organisation,

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...and 50% in the festival, and in the audience too.

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So we achieved full equality, which at a music festival is quite unprecedented...

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as it’s a male world; besides,

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it was an electronic and experimental music festival, which is even more so.

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More womyn came because we started promoting it in fashion places,

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shops, hairdressers and so on. This is the secret, why more womyn came.

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We’ve found many womyn who use both shareware and  copyright software,

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but there is great awareness around the use of free software specific tools;

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we’ve also found a quest for improvement,

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many want to learn more about opensource tools.

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Something very important for womyn who use technologies is to become more independent...

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in their lives and their artistic, professional activities,

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and this makes them realise that the tool to achieve such an objective...

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is to get training and learn how to use free software.

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We’ve also realised that the current situation in Barcelona and Catalonia...

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has been very favourable in a way: there are many places and groups involved...

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...in developing free software, organising workshops ...

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many of these places have disappeared now, as many squats have been evicted, and they were hosting hacklabs...

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and free or low-cost training where a lot of womyn were taking part.

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We’re not saying the situation has stabilised,

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on the contrary, but it has been a real find,

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we’re surrounded by womyn either working on this, or going through this change, or interested in, don’t you think?

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In principle, I completely support free software, totally.

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But I have to admit I use private software more, maybe because I find it more convenient,

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as there are a few things that I find quite difficult to do with free software, but I’m sure it won’t be long...

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before I stop using copyright software.

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Everything I learned about software has been from mr. Bill Gates ...

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and the capitalist system, and that’s the system controlling us very closely,

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and if you’re using explorer as a browser or something else, they’re checking up on you

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and I don’t want to be controlled at all, I value my freedom very much.

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We have to be coherent, I mean, if we are to question the exhibition and the production conditions,

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we’ll also have to question the tools we use.

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In our group there are people who use free software video or graphics ,

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they’re not doing programming, but they are in contact with the community working on the software.

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It’s very interesting to have the opportunity to discuss with the people creating the software

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or all softwares will be too similar.

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This means there’s a mailing list of people who use or develop software.

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Usually you sign up to get advice, and once you know a bit you start helping the others.

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Then there are other tasks, it might be web mastering, bundling, which is what I do, bits of source code...

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so people can install them more easily. Web masters are volunteers, volunteers write manuals,

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answer questions and all this, on a volunteer basis, and of course, there are never many people doing this,

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and I was cinelerra's girl! And now there’s another girl there.

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At the beginning people at indymedia didn’t know how to use free software tools that later became common ...

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things like php, mysql or apache to run servers, and there were people who knew them,

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people who weren’t from Barcelona, and what they did was help and train ...

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those who wanted to set up indymedia barcelona.

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And these people would say: ”Allright, let’s do a workshop, I’ll teach you what I know and that’s it,

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this is part of being an activist, my job is teaching, yours is learning".

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Next time I format my PC, I’m going to install half Linux and half microsoft,

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so I’ll soon become familiar with it, it’s like learning how to swim,

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first using two arm bands, then one only and soon without them ...there you go.

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What I can’t do, ‘cause many people have upheld it and I think it is definitely defensible,

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 is to pirate exams, I mean haha ... software at the institute... we can’t do that! ...

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this is not allowed.

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So I said, if I do the web page course at the high school, I’ll do it with free software,

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and I set it up entirely with free software.

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If everyone saw the need for opensource software we’d make progress but here,

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rather than the technical side, which I think is easy, it’s a matter of political will, from the top, and those at the top rule here.

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And what does this have to do with womyn?

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In French, the wordplay is easy, operating system is called exploitation system,

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so, being in charge of your exploitation system is the least, isn’t it?

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And changing the inside is the very least, I mean for me free software and feminism go together.

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And also, the idea that you can learn together and share tools, so everyone can go home with their live cd,

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software, download it and get updates. It’s not networking as we were saying before, with your friends...

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who give you copies as they’re graphic designers, pay the copyright and then pass it around,

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which is also an interesting economy. This is more, there are no copies, everyone has got the original if you want.

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an investigation that arises from the desire to elucidate certain questions

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to transform research into a useful knowledge reserve

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to all those people worried about inequalities among genders and

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for  people oriented to social and political transformation.

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a space to rethink technology and its representations, its connection with the body and subjectivities

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and its relation with new forms of production, work, affections, identities, knowledge, desires, feelings, actions...

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a study that comes from the analysis of data, information and existing research at an international level

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and that approaches real and everyday practices

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a research that wants to echo projects, iniciatives, personal and collective practices in relation with technologies,

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but above all from womyn who currently participate and develop tools for information and communication technologies

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a critical attitude because we want to know and have access to the running and mechanisms of the tools which we work with.

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For that reason we opt to use free software, open tools that facilitate collective learning

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and give autonomy in collaborative work and with the machines

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A creation that is spread under free licences because we believe that freely sharing..

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and distributing information and knowledge facilitates social and political transformation

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An interest to identify attitudes, representations and practices that discriminate against womyn in the world of ICT

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from the experience of womyn that have managed to overcome those inequalities.

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A visual, sonorous and cartographical path of the route, actions, looks and reports...

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as an active political work form.

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A way to entangle us more...more...and more

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touch me

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devote me

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penetrate me

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as if I weren’t here

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but I am!

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contractions on trapeze of different kinds

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I’ve got a bigger tummy.. I've got a sort of saddle...

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headache,

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a bit of tension here

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you’re not moving this enough, your head, your arm, here...

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all this here shattered... backache, so bad I can’t sleep sometimes

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I’ve got poor sight, lost half dioptre, for spending a month in front of my PC

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my legs hurt, ‘cause I don’t walk, I don’t leave the house, just to buy tobacco,

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and I see spots in front of my eyes basically

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If everyone got as far as myself, we wouldn’t have legs, just stumps, or they’d be very thin,

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we’d have eyes with something like this, radiating all the time, you know?

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And what would I have eyelids for, if I get eyes infection ‘cause I never blink!

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I also noticed that my fingers were going curved, so now I do exercises to straighten them,

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but it’s normal, if you keep typing your fingers will become curved, have you seen the aliens?

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And then there’s what we were saying about this book by Franco Berardi, the Machine of Unhappiness,

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which is about the new pathologies affecting the connected subject, that apparently affect particularly womyn ...

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who work with new technologies and the production of knowledge...

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Since we can’t handle such a load of information, we suffer from stress...

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because we can’t take in so much knowledge,

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it’s too much and too fast, and in such a confined space, the screen. Thinking in a window frame,

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I think we’re not considering this enough, how this affects our way of thinking, almost at the neurological level,

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and brain connections, what type of connections are taking place.

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I see you and want more

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the future I dream would be... don’t know

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it’s like a Miss America question: I want peace and good well on earth

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A machine that loved me...no!

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There’s a debate ... do machines have a soul? Sure not! How can you think machines have a soul?

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No! I understand machines very well exactly because they don’t have emotions... and wishes.. don’t know...

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.. have a child

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I can’t imagine the future without computers and the internet, to start with

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to live in a van with my laptop and my camera, and go up and down making documentaries...I don’t know if I’ll get there one day...

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being able to explain things that occur, that require some research,

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and some technological work at the same time, and send them to the rest of the world

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to have more time to look up anything, even if they are silly things..

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I’d like science not to discriminate against womyn, and to see us as equals instead, cause it’s not so yet

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it’s not about every woman being a programmer or a technician, but to really have the choice to go that way or not

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I’ve quite changed my opinion lately, I do think it’s useful that womyn who know more ...

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share with others so they can learn, it’s a good thing.

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to reach a non-invasive use of technologies, healthy, non colonising.

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I have the impression my whole life is being colonised!

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actually, I really think we’ll get to the point where, maybe not freeware, but definitely open source software will be the norm,

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and we may lose interest in it, we may even start to fight against the open source movement, I don’t know.

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my dream is to have a band

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to make music, devote my time to music and creating,

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carry on living of visual art and video creation

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my dream is a discotheque, is that clear?! Discotheque!

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I’ve always liked that,